This is the most common gram positive bacteria causing UTIs. It and the other bacteria ending in “coccus” (staph and strep) are less painful and virulent in the bladder due to two factors:
- They aren’t motile, i.e., the little effers can’t swim to your kidneys, and
- Their growth is inhibited by an acid pH, and anyone on a typical Western diet has a urine pH around 5-6, which is acidic enough to keep the bacteria somewhat in check.
#1 means you don’t have to worry about a runaway infection getting to your kidneys, and #2 means you’re not going to be in the kind of raging pain typically associated with a UTI. At most, you generally feel some irritation and have frequency, but you’re not doubled over.
It is imperative NOT to take lemon/baking soda water with this one: that’s how you trigger a bacterial growth spike. Instead, you want to take ascorbic acid Vitamin C to push your urine pH down even further to around 4: the cheap kind at any grocery/drug store is fine, but powder form is best, whether it’s loose or in a gelatin capsule. Correct dosage and timing below, in the Kill List.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Few of these weapons are going to work as they should if you have not cleansed with activated charcoal at all, or if you have low stomach acid and aren’t actively treating it. Without cleansing the gut, the bacterial and fungal pathogens in your gut will use up most types of natural meds (Vitamin C and cayenne pepper are the exceptions) before they can get to the bladder. It’s like charging a machine gun nest when there’s three rows of enemy-filled trenches in the way: you must sweep the trenches clear first in order to reach your objective. For this you can do the Shock and Awe cleanse outlined here.
For a gram positive UTI, the large doses of ascorbic acid Vitamin C you’re going to take are going to have a cleansing effect: you can take that with meals instead of the lemon juice people with a gram negative UTI should use. Once you’re loose and frequent, you can take 2 tsp (5 gram) doses twice a day, with 12 oz water each. Remember, no food within 2 hours of charcoal.
If you have low stomach acid your digestive system is unable to properly break down and absorb most of what you’re putting into it. That’s why you feel like crap all the time and nothing works. This must be addressed or nothing will get better. Click here to read how.
Additionally, if you are peeing frequently but only taking natural meds a few times a day, they move into your bladder quickly and then get emptied out too soon. You want every bit of urine coming through your bladder to be full of natural meds. That means you want to take a combination of the ones you don’t need to eat with (ginger, OLE) every time you pee. My favorite way to do this is to drink 6-8 oz celery/ginger juice after every trip to the bathroom, with 2 OLE capsules, for instance. With a gram positive UTI you want to take 3 grams of ascorbic acid Vitamin C with every glass of celery/ginger juice, if you’re using that to treat low stomach acid and/or cleanse your gut. The ascorbic acid will counter the alkalizing effect of the celery.
The natural meds are listed in order of how broad-spectrum they are against the different strains, and potency. Those which I’ve seen kill a UTI single-handedly are listed first. For best results with all of these things:
- Cleanse with activated charcoal: you want to send a minimum of a tablespoon (7.5 grams) through, total, before taking full-strength doses of natural meds.
- Take about 2 grams of HCL per meal
- Keep your urine pH where it needs to be, monitoring with urine test strips
- Combine three different types of these natural meds
- Keep a journal where you jot down what you’re taking, when, and what your symptoms/test results are when you pee. This way you will be able to spot patterns and track your progress.
- Lastly, when you’re doing everything right, (you cleanse thoroughly with charcoal and you’re taking acid if needed and your meds consistently), it should take 5-7 days to kill a UTI, at the most. If it’s taking longer, you either need more charcoal cleansing, more acid with your food/meds, or a different combination of natural meds.
Enterococcus: pH 4 Ascorbic acid Vitamin C
1. Ascorbic acid Vitamin C: You need to take a minimum of 2 grams per dose with Enterococcus. As I stated in Profiles in Power: The Real Role of Vitamin C in UTI Treatment, entero can eat small doses of ascorbic acid, but is overwhelmed and killed by large doses. In all the cases I’ve dealt with, a 2 gram dose gave definite positive results. You can take more, but don’t take less.
2 grams per dose, 4x a day. Safe for pregnancy and breastfeeding. Do not take the kind with sorbitol in it. Just pure ascorbic acid.
A. This is likely going to give you the runs, but that gives you the ideal opportunity for charcoal cleansing: 1-2 tsp or 3-5 grams per dose as often as needed to normalize the bowels.
B. You can use camu camu whole food Vitamin C, but not acerola cherry, which does not acidify the urine.
2. Raw garlic. This is the second best weapon against all “coccus” bacteria.
Take 1 large clove with food, 4x a day. Safe for pregnancy/breastfeeding, may cause baby gas.
A. If you have low stomach acid, you will not absorb it. Take alongside 2-3 capsules of HCL and 2 grams of ascorbic acid.
B. It needs to be freshly minced/crushed right before taking.
C. Do not mix into hot food or you will destroy the medicinal qualities.
D. Get a firm head with lots of large cloves: do not store in the refrigerator: do not buy elephant garlic; it is a leek, not garlic.
E. If you bloat every time you take garlic, even though you’re taking acid with it, you have a problem with fructans and you need a low FODMAP diet and some serious gut healing. Click here to read about it.
3. Olive leaf extract. This is the best wingman to ascorbic acid and raw garlic: it’s an effective prophylactic against all types of bacteria, kills Candida like no other, has no toxicity and is excellent for general health, BUT when you already have an embedded UTI you need to combine it with other natural meds to administer the coup de grâce. It has the strongest Candida-killing action of any UTI med: you will have die-off unless your Candida has a biofilm. It can be taken with or without food, as often as desired. Safe for pregnancy and breastfeeding.
A. The most trustworthy brands are Vitacost and Swanson Super Strength. Most brands sold in hippy stores are weak, overpriced crap that will do you no good. You need about 300-350 mg of oleuropein (the active ingredient) per dose.
B. Charcoal cleansing before you take full doses is imperative, or the Candida die-off will be hell.
C. If you ignore the warnings and take this without charcoal cleansing and feel nothing, your gut Candida has a biofilm and you need to be extremely thorough with charcoal cleansing to peel it all off the gut walls, or OLE will never reach the bladder. Extensive use of prescription antifungals or corticosteroids in the past is a predicator of Candida biofilm.
4. Juiced ginger root. 1.5-2 inch cube per dose. Here’s a study on it killing Enterococcus faecalis, the species that causes UTIs.
This has some Candida-killing action but is absorbed into the blood too fast to cause severe die-off. You can take it by itself like a shot with 2 grams of ascorbic acid. You can also juice a 2 inch piece with a head of celery (makes 16 oz), and take 2 grams ascorbic acid with every 8 oz you drink of that blend.
Juiced ginger root can be taken with or without food, as often as desired. Safe for pregnancy and breastfeeding.
A. The root should be firm and unwrinkled, with some visible juiciness when you slice it.
B. Take a large swallow of this every time you pee. You can juice a big batch every morning and bottle it to take with you to work/errands. Make sure you pee every 2 waking hours.
C. If the juice gives you the runs, you both need and are now prepared for a charcoal cleanse. Take 2 tsp (5 grams) doses with 12 oz water 1-3x a day until stools normalize.
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Hello, I came across this site because I’m looking for an efficient way to clean an enterococcus faecalis chronic infection in my prostate that has lasted for more than 10 years.
I have done several sperm and urine cutures with the respective antibiograms in the past. I have taken several antibiotics which appeared as sensitive in the antibiograms (moxifloxacin, ciprofloxacin, etc.) And the infection is still there. I don’t know if it is due to the so called prostate barrier but nothing worked. What makes me think that this can be cured is that sometimes I feel way better. I haven’t identified yet what are the causes, though. My usual symptoms are low libido, pain ejaculating and anorgasmia, because somehow the pain kills the orgasm. But sometimes the libido and the orgasms get better and the semen flow is better also. Those improvements can last 1 day, 2 days or a week and then it gets worse again. I don’t know what is the key to those improvements but I think that if I knew and could stick to it I could get cured.
I don’t understand well the amount of information of this entry. I don’t know what can I do in my case, when the infection is in the prostate. Can you please guide me a little? What foods should I avoid? What should I take and how frequently? Etc. Should I take Vitamin C from the drugstore or is it ok to drink a lot of lemon or orange juice?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Rebekah,
Not sure if you are still reviewing comments on this page, but I’d love some advice on ecoli and enterococcus faecalis. I’m 37 weeks pregnant and have dealt with a constant uti (klbesiella & ecoli; then just ecoli; and now ecoli and enterococcus faecalis). I’ve been on four different rounds of antibiotics during the second trimester, but nothing has helped. Baby is low on my bladder which emptying is a real thing. I recently had to go to the hospital ofr kidney stones, which I’m unsure if they are caused by the bacteria or oxalates, as from research I see I eat a high oxalate diet. I was using ginger/celery juice and eating plenty of garlic, but I just cannot seem to rid these infections. I’d like to punch this out naturally prior to labor and delivery so I can rest easy in a safe birthing process without the use of preventative antibiotics if possible. I am currently doing lemon juice and ACV on empty stomach in the AM, drinking marshmellow/corn silk tea, and using a nettle, horsetail, red raspberry, oat straw and mint tea as well. Thank you in advance for any advice.
So what do you do with pseudonomas and enteroccocus when you need a high PH to treat pseudonomas? The pseudonomas amount is higher. Candida Glabralta is also high and in the urine.
“It is imperative NOT to take lemon/baking soda water with this one: that’s how you trigger a bacterial growth spike. Instead, you want to take ascorbic acid Vitamin C to push your urine pH down even further to around 4: the cheap kind at any grocery/drug store is fine, but powder form is best, whether it’s loose or in a gelatin capsule. Correct dosage and timing below, in the Kill List.”
I’m pretty sure I read here to treat the gram negative first then move on to gram negative. But I’m a newbie. Hope you’re not still dealing with this!
Hello, have any readers from the UK used these techniques and found the supplements that Rebekah suggests? I’m trying to translate it into more UK friendly terms. Lots of these products are not available in the UK. I am actually in France but I can order products from the UK no problem. I’m a post menopausal woman looking for a solution for enterococcus f. resistant to antibiotics. have taken 3 and they haven’t worked and completely destroyed my gut in the process.
Hi,
I’m wondering about what you say about enterrococus not causing burning? I have it along with stress b in my urine based on a microgen test. I do have lots of burning and alot of frequency. I also have Lyme so not sure what exactly is causing my symptoms. I’m on antibiotics for about a week now and had some relief at first but now it’s not helping much. I’m worried about taking anything that’s acidic bcoz my bladder is quite irritated. Any suggestions on what to do to keep my bladder from becoming even more irritated while following this plan? Also I have issues with consyopation and I tried charcoal many years back and was severely constipated. Thank you!
Hi Rebecca,
I hope you and your family is well and safe during this pandemic.
Thank you very much for the effort and time you spend on posting all those incredibly helpful information we can reach on your website. I have learnt from you more than from all those “best” doctors I saw in the past 17 years (since I have recurrent infections). In the past 6 years it got worse as I have an infection after every intercourse unless if we use condom. My husband has been tested thoroughly twice and sometimes he took the antibiotics with me despite the fact his lab tests came back negative. Nothing changed and I am desperate to end this misery, finding your website gave me the only hope.
I have been doing Phase II over a month now and taking 1 dose of charcoal 10 capsules (Nature`s Way-560mg) almost every morning. I did a big cleaning with laxative on the first day. I have been increasing OLE (Swanson Super Strength -750mg) very slowly and only reached the maximum dose this week. I also took garlic & lemon shot with the food for over a week, then I swapped garlic to fresh horse radish and then I swapped the HR a week ago with P`Darco (Nature`s Way 545 mg). I am drinking celery juice with lemon in the mornings. (I had to leave out the ginger as after drunk the first celery/ginger/lemon combo, 2 hours later I was peeing blood. So I realised that I had the rare E.coli strain that reacts to ginger very badly. I am not sure this is the only E.coli strain I had as the last lab test showed a vaginal infection (caused by E.coli), and UTI infection (caused by E.coli + Enterococcus).
The above is just a quick summery of what I have done so far. The reason I am writing to you is because I really need your help to move on. Although I have read 80% of your posts, I only saw this line yesterday “if you experience die-off after a dose of charcoal then you have Candida deeply embedded in your intestinal wall that charcoal just removes the top layer”. I believe this is what I have as I have die-off (strong nausea) every day, sometimes all day long and I really feel sick after taking OLE despite the fact that I took so much charcoal by now, sometimes 2x 10 capsules a day as I have running stomach for over a week. Yesterday was the worse, I got to the point that I was so sick in the morning that I had to stop taking all the meds. I have no idea what to do next and would be very grateful for your advice and guidance since you mentioned that it is fixable. Will you please let me know how?
The other issue I have is that I cannot track my improvement at all. I had 3 really bad infections in the past 2 months but when I did the urine tests in the mornings (keeping my bladder full for over 5 hours before doing the test) the result was negative, neither the Leucocytes nor the Nitrites turned into pink, so I have no idea whether or not I managed to kill E.coli. Going to see a doctor at this time of year in UK is not really a good idea so I am wondering whether there is any other product available that might be more sensitive than a standard urine strip to see where I am right now before moving forward and take Vitamin C to kill Enterococcus?
I would really appreciate your help and response.
All the best and I hope to hear from you soon.
Marita
Did u cure it?
My bacterial cultures have been coming up negative but I am sure I have an infection perhaps protected by biofilms- in the past I had a diagnosis of an enterococcus infection but now it all comes up clean- so I really do not know what kind of infection I have- but I have inflammation and frequency at night, very little urine comes out and I have to push it out several times to get every drop out. My sleep is very interrupted and I get up every 2 hours to pee. Do you have any suggestions on which protocol to follow? Last night I tried baking soda and it helped a bit.
Helped a bit, but not very much, I take it? Your symptoms may be mainly caused by a tissue infection.
Have you tried applying a wet charcoal paste to the urethral area?
Thanks so much for your reply! SHould I use the paste around the clock? Also can I use coconut charcoal or only the activated charcoal? ANd should I do the OLE and garlic protocol or is that not necessary with what I have- no detectable bacteria
You can use the paste as often as desired/needed, and activated charcoal made from coconut shells or bamboo are the best kinds.
Do you get a response to the baking soda water test? (Decision Tree post)
If not, it’s a tissue infection and you want to treat for that.
Sorry I can’t find this post from Decision Tree about the baking soda test- what is this?
https://pantrypharmacy.com/2018/12/22/it-hurts-when-i-pee-decision-tree/
I have high levels of e.coli, and some smaller amounts of enterococcus as well as BV, morganela , and enterobacter. Do you recommend treating them all differently? Which protocol would be best. Thanks so much.
Hi Rebekah! Your website is pure gold – you should write a book, you deserve a wider audience.
Anyway, my 8 year old daughter has an enterococcus faecalis UTI and seems to have low stomach acid based on a beetroot test. Should the charcoal cleanse be done on her before applying the kill list, and does everything need to be halved because, you know, she’s only 8 years old?
Sorry to burden you with my question but I’m desperate, on my knees over this UTI as it just seems impervious to the amoxiclav and nitrofurantoin that we were using. And thank you either way.
The first thing to do is start her on ascorbic acid Vitamin C: the pure powder is best. 2 grams mixed into a 6 oz glass of water first thing in the morning, then between meals the rest of the day, and at bedtime. Also, she needs HCL: one capsule per meal to start.
Once her gut speeds up you can give her charcoal: 4-5 Bulletproof brand capsules per dose until stools normalize.
After she’s taken 3 doses of charcoal, you can start giving one Vitacost brand OLE capsule per meal, and one with the ascorbic acid water at bedtime.
Test her with the 10 parameter test strips first thing every morning, and let me know if the infection doesn’t wither up and die in a few days, and we can add in a couple more things.
Expect a big improvement in mood and energy after the HCL and charcoal.
Everyone is different, but children do typically need smaller doses and recover more quickly than adults.
If she has any urethral pain, you can put a heaping half teaspoon of charcoal in an empty teabag, tie it, roll it up and wet it thoroughly, put it in the freezer for 5 minutes, then have her put that right where it hurts.
That’ll stop the pain in minutes, and can be used as long as desired.
Hello! I have been struggling with a UTI for 6 weeks. Bacteria is enterococcus. I have feelings of urgency and low pressure in pelvis but not peeing frequently. It seems to just be sitting there aggravating the hell out of me!!! I have tried 2 rounds of antibiotics to no avail. I am now on a third round of Macrobid for 10 days before i have to see my doc again for a urine culture. I really want to kick this bacteria to the kerb!!! I am going to start taking ascorbic acid 4 x a day, not sure i can do the OLE as I take blood pressure meds. I can do the garlic and the ginger but I am unsure when or if i need to do the activated charcoal. I am so glad I stumbled across this site and would appreciate any help whatsoever to shift this 🙂 Thanks 🙂
The ascorbic acid is the most important first step!
As long as you’re drinking enough water that should also loosen up your gut enough to do a charcoal cleanse, too.
Trust me, after a few rounds of antibiotics in succession, you *need* the charcoal.
Have you tested your stomach acid to see if it’s low?
That may be what’s impeding the ability of the antibiotics to kill it. Check out the Decision Tree post to see how to test it, and the Mother of All Problems post for how to fix it.
OLE doesn’t conflict with blood pressure meds, but it and charcoal cleansing *will* naturally bring your BP down to healthy levels and you’ll be able to go off the BP meds afterward.
You might want to schedule a checkup a few weeks out, to have that looked at after you’re done with the cleansing and UTI.
Ascorbic acid Vitamin C, juiced ginger, raw garlic or grated horseradish, and OLE will finish off Entero as long as you don’t have a low acid/malabsorption issue, in which case you need to also take HCL capsules.
Thank you so much for replying quickly! I will do the stomach acid test tomorrow. I appreciate your help. Have a great day 🙂
Let me know how you do! 👍
I struggle with Enterococcus Faecalis as well, and I will try this method in the next coming days. Did it work on you?
Rebekah: Can you please remove my last name in the post above? Did a mistake and included it…Thank you:)
Done, my dear!
What are HCL capsules?
Just wondering if this will still work if my enterococcus infection has been ongoing for 8 months!
Oh yes, I’ve seen 3 and 4 year old infections die with these things!
Have you tested your stomach acid with the baking soda water test in the Decision Tree post yet?
Low stomach acid is a common cause of resistant infections: in those cases the body isn’t absorbing meds well enough for the bladder to benefit.
I have tested my stomach acid with baking soda and it is good. I didn’t even know I had enteroccocus until I did a microgendx test. So I have been trying to fight naturally over the last 3 months but not really sure how to do it. The women with the 3 and 4 year old infections, how many months/weeks did it take to get rid of it? Because now I worry about imbedded bacterial biofilms. I am so appreciative that this a low motility infection and like you said besides the frequency/irritation I do not have any burning or pain. I have stress that I will develop full blown IC but it seems unlikely with this bacteria. I have never had a UTI in my life and think I picked this up from the hospital during a cystoscopy. Thanks for all that you do! IT is greatly appreciated and I feel much less stressed now that I have read about this. I thought I had to make my urine alkaline and had been drinking baking soda water, which obviously is the wrong thing to do 🙁
Another question is what about diet. Someone wrote me and said I wouldn’t be able to heal if I was eating any kind of gluten, dairy, etc… do you believe that is true?
No, that’s not true for all cases, or even a majority.
There’s so many variables, between the endless differences between individuals and the kind of bacteria present and the different strains of that bacteria that virtually no blanket statement like that is going to hold water.
The one thing that holds true across all cases is what pH the bacteria prefers for growth.
All strains of E. coli prefer to feed and breed in an acidic pH in the bladder, and all strains of Entero prefer an alkaline pH in the bladder.
No matter what type of med the individual bacterial strain is susceptible to, the pH factor remains a constant.
Do you have ascorbic acid powder? You need to take at least 2 grams per dose at least 4x per day, to attack the bacteria and keep your pH down to growth-inhibiting levels.
ETA: The 4 year old infection (Klebsiella) died in 6 days: the 3 year old infection (E. coli) died in one day.
It all depends on the individual, the bacterial strain, and the meds.
Rebecca – I’ve had an asymptomatic enterococcus faecalis UTI since 2015. I have 2 questions that maybe you can answer:
1. I was told by a urologist to not take ascorbic acid because my urine cultures revealed crystals and a ultrasound revealed a kidney stone (that I’ve had for many years). What do you think of ascorbic acid causing crystals?
2. I have had iron deficiency anemia since my enterococcus faecalis UTI was diagnosed. (My iron levels only remain normal if I regulary take a liquid iron supplement daily.) Do you know of any connection between iron deficiency anemia and enterococcus faecalis UTI?
Thank you so much for your recent posts!
I LOVE THESE QUESTIONS!
So many awesome details and all nicely laid out. I’m so glad you asked!
1. Calcium oxalate crystals in the urine are caused by low stomach acid. This is how it works: When there isn’t enough acid in the stomach, minerals aren’t properly broken down and can’t be absorbed into the bloodstream: they just pass through the gut instead. This means that the oxalates (oxalic acid) aren’t bound by calcium in the gut: they’re absorbed into the bloodstream, along with a lot of other acidic compounds.
Because your body MUST keep your blood pH between 7.35-7.45, it pulls calcium from your bones and teeth to prevent acidosis (because it couldn’t absorb it from your gut).
The oxalates and calcium are filtered out of your blood by the kidneys, where they merge to form crystals/stones.
2. Low stomach acid also causes anemia. You simply can’t break down and absorb many vitamins and minerals properly if your stomach isn’t acidic enough. Your body gets a fraction of what you’re consuming, and the pathogens in your gut feast on it all, instead.
This is also why nothing you take kills the infection: those things aren’t being broken down and absorbed properly, either.
For entero you want to get Doctor’s Best HCL to take with meals/med doses, and start on celery/ginger juice, OLE, and ascorbic acid.
The celery juice flushes crystals/gravel/stones out of your kidneys, and ginger, OLE, and ascorbic acid kill entero. The HCL will help you break down and absorb nutrients and won’t raise your urine pH like a shot of lemon juice will.
Here’s a link about low stomach acid causing anemia, among other things.
https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/digestive-health/low-stomach-acid-the-surprising-cause-of-many-indigestion-symptoms/
Can you please remove my last name from the web version? I mistakenly included it in my original post.
Thank you so much for giving me some hope! I’ll report back someday on my progress.
Done, my dear!
Please do!
I’ve seen lots of antibiotic-resistant entero infections die: I’m confident you can beat this!
So I shouldn’t be taking shots of lemon? Is this true of all gram positive infections or just this strain? I’ve been doing it for 3 days. Also, what urine pH is ideal? Or is that different for each strain?
Ideal urine pH during UTI treatment depends on what type of bacteria is causing the infection.
For gram negative bacteria like E. coli, Klebsiella, and Proteus you want a pH of 7.0-8.0.
For gram positive bacteria like Enterococcus, Streptococcus, and Staphylococcus you want a pH of 4.
Lemon juice is acidifying in the stomach, which is good, and alkalizing in the urine due to the potassium content, which is good for gram negative bacteria but bad if you have gram positive.
With gram positive infections, when you need to improve digestion it’s best to use HCL capsules to acidify the stomach, but you can use lemon juice *with a 2 gram dose of ascorbic acid*, in a pinch.
As long as you’re taking ascorbic acid it will counter the alkalizing effect of lemon juice, but ideally you want HCL capsules.
There’s a link to the good ones in the Supplies post and in the Mother of All Problems post.
Ok, thank you! I hope my local health store will reopen tomorrow after Christmas so I can get some HCL so. I’ve been taking the Vit C after meals rather than mid-meal with the lemon shots. I guess that hasn’t been doing anything then? I had noticed the pH on the test strips getting higher, not realising that wasn’t good for me.
I just checked and my pH is about 7-7.5. Is this way too high for me? Also what does it mean to have proteins in your urine? I always seem to have it.
That’s way higher than you want for a gram positive bacteria! I would take 3 grams of ascorbic acid immediately.
Protein in urine means your kidneys are under stress: it’s lightly positive, just a green tint?
It’s an evening time test. Leukocytes are mild-moderate. Ph is 7.5. Proteins are trace – (possibly) 0.3. I always seem to have this. But if it’s gram positive it’s not likely that the infection has gone up to my kidneys, right? What exactly does kidneys under distress mean? Yes I can order HCL from Amazon, but it will take a few days to arrive.
Correct. Those bacteria can’t swim and you’d be in pain. It’s most likely a touch of stress from the toxins they have to filter constantly due to low stomach acid.
Things like celery juice, OLE, and ginger all support and cleanse the kidneys, and taking enough acid with food will decrease the load on your kidneys, too.
Gotcha! And celery juicing is ok for gram positive? I’ll try a few places tomorrow for HCL and try to get that into me asap. I appreciate these tips, thanks Rebekah.
Celery juice is so good for stomach/gut health that I would go ahead and do it *as long as you take 3 grams of ascorbic acid with it*. This will counter the alkaline minerals in it.
For how long can I safely take these high doses of Vitamin C? Once the infection is gone (hopefully soon!) can I use lemon shots then? Or should I stay clear altogether if I am prone to gram positive infections?
The only side effect of high doses of ascorbic acid is lots of 💩: your body sheds excess ascorbic acid via urine, which is great when you’re killing a gram positive UTI!
You can take it as long as you need, but it shouldn’t be that long.
Gram positive bacteria are relatively difficult to get: I don’t think you’re at risk for future ones, and lemon juice can only do good things for your overall health.
It helps you digest food and cleanses the liver, in addition to being a good natural source of Vitamin C and potassium.
It’s doing something, just not as much as it could! Try taking it with lemon juice, and in between meals.
Can you use Amazon to get your HCL? It’s much cheaper there than from a hippy store.
I don’t seem to get diarrhea from taking large doses of vitamin C. Any idea of the reason for this? Especially this time, and I’m taking it for about a week now. I went ahead with a charcoal sweep yesterday morning and this morning anyway.
It’s pure ascorbic acid?
It’s pill form, there are other ingredients in there. Leuks on test strips appear to be getting lighter purple now, hallelujah! Would it mean I’m a bit constipated? I definitely feel things going on in my gut though. Also, I know you said I shouldn’t get another gram positive infection as they are hard to get, but I’ve had multiple bouts of enterococcus and enterococcus faecalis. What would be the reason for this? I sometimes get coliform, which I believe is gram negative. Is there a kill list for that one?
The powder form is the best: when pills aren’t giving you rapid results it’s best to switch. NOW brand powder on Amazon is effective.
Once you get this infection killed off, I would get some sturdy empty teabags to do a course of vaginal treatments with.
You put 1 rounded teaspoon of activated charcoal powder in a teabag, tie it shut, dunk it in water till the hissing stops, squeeze once, then apply like a tampon. It’ll draw bacterial and fungal pathogens to itself like a magnet. That plus stomach acid treatment and charcoal cleansing wipes out the main vectors of infection.
Also…I should mention this for general informational purposes…the human mouth is a Petri dish and you don’t want one anywhere near your lady parts. 😬😬😬
There’ll be a Kill List post for every bacteria I’ve ever been contacted about: I’m on a family visit right now which is slowing me down, but I hope to get a few more installments up this week.
Thank you, I will try the teabag for sure. At the moment abstinence is my best/worst friend, I’m waaaay too paranoid for that 😉 How many days does it usually take to kill this type of infection naturally? I guess I can’t count the first few days cos I was doing lemon shots when I shouldn’t have been. Thanks again and enjoy the rest of your family trip 🙂
It depends on what you’re taking and how you’re taking it, but the average infection can be defeated within 5 days when you’re taking the right combination and hitting it hard. Each of my infections died in about 36 hours once I figured out which combination I needed for that strain.